As restaurants around the country furlough or lay off their workers or permanently close, Chicago’s high-end tasting menu destination Alinea is bringing in record revenue and has brought back its staff. Meanwhile Tock, a reservations platform that should be in deep trouble as bookings for dine-in experiences go to zero, just raised $10 million.

Nick Kokonas is an owner of both operations. He explains on the latest episode of Eater’s Digest how deep and fast pivots helped to save both